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Jeetje, pas 16 % van de verkoop is elektrisch en dan nu al zo afname van winst. Dat beloofd niet veel goeds. Gelukkig ziet Geely het nut van de doorontwikkeling van verbrandingsmotoren voorlopig wel nog zitten.
Volvo worstelt met verdienen aan verkoop elektrische auto
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Press Release
Jul 20, 2023 | ID: 316863
Volvo Cars Q2 results: full speed ahead in transformation with a solid business performance
Q2 revenue was SEK 102.2 bn (SEK 71.3 bn in Q2 2022)
Q2 EBIT (excluding JVs and associates) was SEK 6.4 bn (SEK 4.6 bn in Q2 2022)
Q2 EBIT was SEK 5.0 bn (SEK 10.8 bn in Q2 2022)
Q2 EBIT margin, excluding JVs and associates and without non-recurring items, was 7.2 per cent
Q2 EBIT margin (excluding JVs and associates) was 6.3 per cent (6.5 per cent in Q2 2022)
Q2 EBIT margin was 4.9 per cent (15.1 per cent in Q2 2022)
Q2 basic earnings per share was SEK 1.12 (SEK 3.00 in Q2 2022)
Q2 fully electric car sales share at 16 per cent (7 per cent in Q2 2022)
Volvo Cars today reports a 39 per cent increase in operating profits, excluding joint ventures and associates, to SEK 6.4 bn and a corresponding EBIT margin of 6.3 per cent for the second quarter of 2023. The result came despite a SEK 0.9 bn, non-recurring item related to the redundancy programme announced in May, part of securing a more efficient and sustainable cost base for the future. Without this item, the underlying EBIT margin, excluding joint ventures and associates, was 7.2 per cent in the second quarter. This illustrates that the solid underlying performance momentum from the first three months of the year continued during this past quarter.
The company’s EBIT including joint ventures and associates reached SEK 5 bn, which was lower compared to the corresponding period last year. This is mainly because group EBIT for the second quarter of 2022 was positively influenced by the one-time, non-recurring accounting effects of Polestar’s listing on the Nasdaq stock exchange in New York. The interim report for the second quarter of 2023 can be found here.
“The second quarter of 2023 shows that the year is shaping up as planned,” said Jim Rowan, president and chief executive. “In these past three months we have continued to deliver on our ambitious transformation goals and made steady progress. At the same time, we also achieved a solid underlying business performance with increased sales and revenues. We are performing and transforming, while navigating the external challenges that have come our way.”
During the quarter, the company reported a continued strong sales performance in electric cars. Sales of fully electric Volvo car models increased by 178 per cent year-on-year during the quarter and accounted for 16 per cent of its total share. The company’s newly launched fully electric cars – the Volvo EX90 and EX30 SUV models – are not yet in production and have so far not contributed to the company’s 2023 performance. Once these new cars hit the roads, they will further boost fully electric car sales towards Volvo Cars’ ambitious goal to sell only fully electric cars by 2030.
While it delivered a higher percentage of fully electric cars during the quarter, the company’s margins on fully electric cars were impacted in this period because the lithium used in these cars was sourced when prices peaked during late 2022.
Additionally, as it introduced new model year 2024 fully electric cars with a considerably better range than existing models, Volvo Cars proactively shifted out the inventory of model year 2023 cars.
As the company enters the second half of 2023 this dynamic will change, since it will not only benefit from lower lithium prices, but also realise the effects of increased pricing on MY2024 fully electric cars. Therefore, margins on fully electric cars are expected to improve in the coming quarters.
Last month, Volvo Cars also revealed the fully electric EX30, its first ever small SUV. With this car, the company enters an important new segment and customer demographic and one that it expects to grow rapidly in the coming years. The EX30 will also boost the company’s profitable growth in fully electric cars, with expected gross margins on the car in the range of 15 to 20 per cent. Both the EX30 and the larger EX90 are exciting steps into the future and clearly demonstrate Volvo Cars’ course going forward: premium electric cars, built on next-generation electric architectures with advanced battery and computing technology, as well as next-level passive and active safety features.
Volvo Cars continued its commercial transformation this past quarter. In June, it reached another key milestone when the United Kingdom became its first market to fully transform from a traditional wholesale business to a direct consumer model that is designed around flexibility for the customer. The knowledge it gains from the UK commercial transformation will be crucial as the company plans to make more markets fully direct in the coming years, together with its trusted retail partners. This will both improve the overall customer experience and make its commercial network more efficient, transparent and cost-effective.
In May, Volvo Cars also increased the focus on the global cost optimisation and resource efficiency initiative it launched late last year. This included a global redundancy programme including around 1,300 office-based positions in Sweden, as part of efforts to reduce costs and drive efficiencies across its global operations. The aim is to establish a more efficient and sustainable cost base for the future, by restructuring and changing ways of working in parts of the organisation, as well as focusing even more on securing the relevant skills it needs to be successful.
Q2 operating and financial performance
In terms of its operational performance during the second quarter, Volvo Cars recorded revenues of SEK 102.2 billion, an increase of 43 per cent versus the same period in 2022. It also saw a solid global sales increase of 25 per cent to 178,800 cars sold, a strong performance in electrified car sales, as well as continued premium pricing in many markets.
The sales performance was helped by improved production output in the company’s factories. During the second quarter, it produced 50 per cent more cars than in the same period last year. This is a validation of the steps the company introduced to make its supply chain more resilient, such as broadening its supplier base, improving performance and delivery from its suppliers, developing direct relationships with key semi-conductor companies and foundries, and creating more transparency in the overall value chain.
Second-quarter EBIT excluding joint ventures and associates was weighed down by a non-recurring item of about SEK 0.9 billion, but still came in at SEK 6.4 billion, an increase of 39 per cent year-on-year. This cost was related to the redundancy programme that was part of the enhanced cost efficiency initiative announced in May.
Efforts to reduce the company’s CO2 footprint per car also continued to progress. During the second quarter of the year, overall CO2 emissions per car were 18.8 per cent lower compared with its 2018 benchmark, supporting its mid-decade ambition of a 40 per cent CO2 reduction per car.
Looking ahead to the rest of the year
2023 remains a crucial year in Volvo Cars’ transformation. With more new electric cars on the way and work ongoing on a new battery plant in Sweden and its planned new electric car factory in Slovakia, the company is putting in place important building blocks for its next growth phase.
It has opened a new Tech Hub in Krakow, Poland, which will complement existing ones in Stockholm and Lund in Sweden, and Bangalore in India. These Tech Hubs and its other R&D centers will help Volvo Cars deliver on its ambition to become a leader in future mobility, by creating a global powerhouse of next generation technology. The company will also continue its commercial transformation towards more direct business and a constantly improving customer experience.
More broadly speaking, the company sees supply and demand continue to normalise in the wider market, which brings some additional pricing pressure as price levels have also started to normalise in several markets. Yet while rising interest rates in some of its largest markets put pressure on the consumer and the overall market, demand for Volvo cars continues to be healthy.
Assuming there are no further unexpected supply chain disruptions, Volvo Cars expects a solid double-digit growth in retail sales for the full year. It also expects the share of fully electric car sales to come in even higher than last year’s full-year share of 11 per cent.
“We’re staying the course and continue to make progress towards our ambition to be a leader in next-generation mobility,” said Jim Rowan. “The proof of a real transformation is in its execution and that is where our focus continues to be as we head into the second half of 2023.”
Note to editors
Jim Rowan and chief financial officer Johan Ekdahl will host a livestream on Volvo Cars’ Q2 2023 results for media, investors and analysts at 09:30 CET today. The presentations will be held in English and followed by a Q&A session.
Press Release
Jul 20, 2023 | ID: 316863
Volvo Cars Q2 results: full speed ahead in transformation with a solid business performance
Q2 revenue was SEK 102.2 bn (SEK 71.3 bn in Q2 2022)
Q2 EBIT (excluding JVs and associates) was SEK 6.4 bn (SEK 4.6 bn in Q2 2022)
Q2 EBIT was SEK 5.0 bn (SEK 10.8 bn in Q2 2022)
Q2 EBIT margin, excluding JVs and associates and without non-recurring items, was 7.2 per cent
Q2 EBIT margin (excluding JVs and associates) was 6.3 per cent (6.5 per cent in Q2 2022)
Q2 EBIT margin was 4.9 per cent (15.1 per cent in Q2 2022)
Q2 basic earnings per share was SEK 1.12 (SEK 3.00 in Q2 2022)
Q2 fully electric car sales share at 16 per cent (7 per cent in Q2 2022)
Volvo Cars today reports a 39 per cent increase in operating profits, excluding joint ventures and associates, to SEK 6.4 bn and a corresponding EBIT margin of 6.3 per cent for the second quarter of 2023. The result came despite a SEK 0.9 bn, non-recurring item related to the redundancy programme announced in May, part of securing a more efficient and sustainable cost base for the future. Without this item, the underlying EBIT margin, excluding joint ventures and associates, was 7.2 per cent in the second quarter. This illustrates that the solid underlying performance momentum from the first three months of the year continued during this past quarter.
The company’s EBIT including joint ventures and associates reached SEK 5 bn, which was lower compared to the corresponding period last year. This is mainly because group EBIT for the second quarter of 2022 was positively influenced by the one-time, non-recurring accounting effects of Polestar’s listing on the Nasdaq stock exchange in New York. The interim report for the second quarter of 2023 can be found here.
“The second quarter of 2023 shows that the year is shaping up as planned,” said Jim Rowan, president and chief executive. “In these past three months we have continued to deliver on our ambitious transformation goals and made steady progress. At the same time, we also achieved a solid underlying business performance with increased sales and revenues. We are performing and transforming, while navigating the external challenges that have come our way.”
During the quarter, the company reported a continued strong sales performance in electric cars. Sales of fully electric Volvo car models increased by 178 per cent year-on-year during the quarter and accounted for 16 per cent of its total share. The company’s newly launched fully electric cars – the Volvo EX90 and EX30 SUV models – are not yet in production and have so far not contributed to the company’s 2023 performance. Once these new cars hit the roads, they will further boost fully electric car sales towards Volvo Cars’ ambitious goal to sell only fully electric cars by 2030.
While it delivered a higher percentage of fully electric cars during the quarter, the company’s margins on fully electric cars were impacted in this period because the lithium used in these cars was sourced when prices peaked during late 2022.
Additionally, as it introduced new model year 2024 fully electric cars with a considerably better range than existing models, Volvo Cars proactively shifted out the inventory of model year 2023 cars.
As the company enters the second half of 2023 this dynamic will change, since it will not only benefit from lower lithium prices, but also realise the effects of increased pricing on MY2024 fully electric cars. Therefore, margins on fully electric cars are expected to improve in the coming quarters.
Last month, Volvo Cars also revealed the fully electric EX30, its first ever small SUV. With this car, the company enters an important new segment and customer demographic and one that it expects to grow rapidly in the coming years. The EX30 will also boost the company’s profitable growth in fully electric cars, with expected gross margins on the car in the range of 15 to 20 per cent. Both the EX30 and the larger EX90 are exciting steps into the future and clearly demonstrate Volvo Cars’ course going forward: premium electric cars, built on next-generation electric architectures with advanced battery and computing technology, as well as next-level passive and active safety features.
Volvo Cars continued its commercial transformation this past quarter. In June, it reached another key milestone when the United Kingdom became its first market to fully transform from a traditional wholesale business to a direct consumer model that is designed around flexibility for the customer. The knowledge it gains from the UK commercial transformation will be crucial as the company plans to make more markets fully direct in the coming years, together with its trusted retail partners. This will both improve the overall customer experience and make its commercial network more efficient, transparent and cost-effective.
In May, Volvo Cars also increased the focus on the global cost optimisation and resource efficiency initiative it launched late last year. This included a global redundancy programme including around 1,300 office-based positions in Sweden, as part of efforts to reduce costs and drive efficiencies across its global operations. The aim is to establish a more efficient and sustainable cost base for the future, by restructuring and changing ways of working in parts of the organisation, as well as focusing even more on securing the relevant skills it needs to be successful.
Q2 operating and financial performance
In terms of its operational performance during the second quarter, Volvo Cars recorded revenues of SEK 102.2 billion, an increase of 43 per cent versus the same period in 2022. It also saw a solid global sales increase of 25 per cent to 178,800 cars sold, a strong performance in electrified car sales, as well as continued premium pricing in many markets.
The sales performance was helped by improved production output in the company’s factories. During the second quarter, it produced 50 per cent more cars than in the same period last year. This is a validation of the steps the company introduced to make its supply chain more resilient, such as broadening its supplier base, improving performance and delivery from its suppliers, developing direct relationships with key semi-conductor companies and foundries, and creating more transparency in the overall value chain.
Second-quarter EBIT excluding joint ventures and associates was weighed down by a non-recurring item of about SEK 0.9 billion, but still came in at SEK 6.4 billion, an increase of 39 per cent year-on-year. This cost was related to the redundancy programme that was part of the enhanced cost efficiency initiative announced in May.
Efforts to reduce the company’s CO2 footprint per car also continued to progress. During the second quarter of the year, overall CO2 emissions per car were 18.8 per cent lower compared with its 2018 benchmark, supporting its mid-decade ambition of a 40 per cent CO2 reduction per car.
Looking ahead to the rest of the year
2023 remains a crucial year in Volvo Cars’ transformation. With more new electric cars on the way and work ongoing on a new battery plant in Sweden and its planned new electric car factory in Slovakia, the company is putting in place important building blocks for its next growth phase.
It has opened a new Tech Hub in Krakow, Poland, which will complement existing ones in Stockholm and Lund in Sweden, and Bangalore in India. These Tech Hubs and its other R&D centers will help Volvo Cars deliver on its ambition to become a leader in future mobility, by creating a global powerhouse of next generation technology. The company will also continue its commercial transformation towards more direct business and a constantly improving customer experience.
More broadly speaking, the company sees supply and demand continue to normalise in the wider market, which brings some additional pricing pressure as price levels have also started to normalise in several markets. Yet while rising interest rates in some of its largest markets put pressure on the consumer and the overall market, demand for Volvo cars continues to be healthy.
Assuming there are no further unexpected supply chain disruptions, Volvo Cars expects a solid double-digit growth in retail sales for the full year. It also expects the share of fully electric car sales to come in even higher than last year’s full-year share of 11 per cent.
“We’re staying the course and continue to make progress towards our ambition to be a leader in next-generation mobility,” said Jim Rowan. “The proof of a real transformation is in its execution and that is where our focus continues to be as we head into the second half of 2023.”
Note to editors
Jim Rowan and chief financial officer Johan Ekdahl will host a livestream on Volvo Cars’ Q2 2023 results for media, investors and analysts at 09:30 CET today. The presentations will be held in English and followed by a Q&A session.
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teebee
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Tja… niet zo raar wanneer er een overheid is die elektrisch rijden niet echt stimuleert (behoudens roepen dat het goed is voor het milieu). Zolang de prijzen nog dusdanig hoog blijven zal het niet echt vlot toenemen. Over enige tijd is de bijtelling ook stevig(er).
Nu 16%, in 2025 17% en in 2026 doodleuk 22%. En ik heb zo’n vermoeden dat het daarna nog wel verder zal stijgen.
Kortom: ‘hulde’
Nu 16%, in 2025 17% en in 2026 doodleuk 22%. En ik heb zo’n vermoeden dat het daarna nog wel verder zal stijgen.
Kortom: ‘hulde’
“de voorruit is groter dan de achteruitkijkspiegel”
Hij: V60 T5 Momentum MY19 / Birch Light Metallic, Maroon Brown Moritz leder en heel veel lekkers !
Zij: XC40 T2 MY23, Silver Dawn, Momentum Core Aut. met veel lekkers (V40 CC MY18, Denim Blue)
Volvo V60, VOR, D3 163pk, Ocean Blue & Beige leder, bodykit, MY12
Vroeger oa Mini, VW, Honda, Alfa Romeo (10x) oa Guilietta/33/33SW/155/156SW, Renault Scenic/Laguna Estate/Espace, Fiat Barchetta, Volvo V40 1.8 en V50 2.0D, Peugeot 208
Hij: V60 T5 Momentum MY19 / Birch Light Metallic, Maroon Brown Moritz leder en heel veel lekkers !
Zij: XC40 T2 MY23, Silver Dawn, Momentum Core Aut. met veel lekkers (V40 CC MY18, Denim Blue)
Volvo V60, VOR, D3 163pk, Ocean Blue & Beige leder, bodykit, MY12
Vroeger oa Mini, VW, Honda, Alfa Romeo (10x) oa Guilietta/33/33SW/155/156SW, Renault Scenic/Laguna Estate/Espace, Fiat Barchetta, Volvo V40 1.8 en V50 2.0D, Peugeot 208
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Edgecrusher
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Met 16% en maar tot een bepaald bedrag kom je nu al snel duurder uit dan een gelijkwaardige brandstofauto in de bijtelling.
2018 V40 D3 GT Business Sport + luxury + scandinavian line [SOLD] & 2018 V40 T4 GT Business Sport + luxury + scandinavian line + styling kit [SOLD]
Nu 2019 Audi A3 Cabriolet & 2023 Ford Puma ST-line X.
Nu 2019 Audi A3 Cabriolet & 2023 Ford Puma ST-line X.
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S80 Executive
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Een van de redenen van de kostenstijging was het gedurende de piekprijs inkopen van grote hoeveelheden grondstoffen. Dan moet je niet de consument bestraffen met hogere prijzen, maar je inkoopafdeling berispen en de lagere marge voor lief nemen.
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V480-S60
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Nee, klopt niet. Een gelijkwaardige benzine uitvoering van mijn elektraleasert zit echt nog ruim boven mijn bijtelling. Een kleinere en goedkopere zit er ook nog altijd ruim boven.Edgecrusher schreef: ↑20.07.2023 - 18:13 Met 16% en maar tot een bepaald bedrag kom je nu al snel duurder uit dan een gelijkwaardige brandstofauto in de bijtelling.
En dan vergelijk ik dus 2023 modellen en prijzen die nu gaan rijden.
VOLVO FOR LIFE
440 1.7 Base, 1990 (12-93 tm 11-97)
440 TD, Wit, 1994 (11-97 tm 5-00)
480 Turbo, Rood, 1990 (5-00 tm 6-01)
440 1.8i, Flame Red, 1995 (3-03 tm 12-03)
V40 1.9D, 115 PK, Desert Wind, 2000 (12-03 tm 1-07)
S60 D5 Edition II, Black Stone, 2002 (2-07 tm 6-09)
480 GT, 2.0, Flame red, 1995 (6-01 tm 9-13)
S60 D5 Momentum, Magic Blue, 2005 (6-09 tm 9-13)
V70 2.5T AWD Kinetic, Black Sapphire, 2005 (9-13 tm 6-18)
XC60 3.0 T6 Summum, Terra Bronze, 2009, 236.000 kms (6-18 tm ..)
440 1.7 Base, 1990 (12-93 tm 11-97)
440 TD, Wit, 1994 (11-97 tm 5-00)
480 Turbo, Rood, 1990 (5-00 tm 6-01)
440 1.8i, Flame Red, 1995 (3-03 tm 12-03)
V40 1.9D, 115 PK, Desert Wind, 2000 (12-03 tm 1-07)
S60 D5 Edition II, Black Stone, 2002 (2-07 tm 6-09)
480 GT, 2.0, Flame red, 1995 (6-01 tm 9-13)
S60 D5 Momentum, Magic Blue, 2005 (6-09 tm 9-13)
V70 2.5T AWD Kinetic, Black Sapphire, 2005 (9-13 tm 6-18)
XC60 3.0 T6 Summum, Terra Bronze, 2009, 236.000 kms (6-18 tm ..)
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teebee
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Linksom/rechtsom, dit is niet de manier om het wagenpark te elektrificeren. De lachende ‘derde’ is de overheid (schatkist in casu).
Indien het ze ècht wat zou interesseren dan zou men het overduidelijk financieel interessant maken om over te stappen. De kosten gaan voor de baten uit is een oude wijsheid, maar de overheid denkt daar anders over.
Indien het ze ècht wat zou interesseren dan zou men het overduidelijk financieel interessant maken om over te stappen. De kosten gaan voor de baten uit is een oude wijsheid, maar de overheid denkt daar anders over.
“de voorruit is groter dan de achteruitkijkspiegel”
Hij: V60 T5 Momentum MY19 / Birch Light Metallic, Maroon Brown Moritz leder en heel veel lekkers !
Zij: XC40 T2 MY23, Silver Dawn, Momentum Core Aut. met veel lekkers (V40 CC MY18, Denim Blue)
Volvo V60, VOR, D3 163pk, Ocean Blue & Beige leder, bodykit, MY12
Vroeger oa Mini, VW, Honda, Alfa Romeo (10x) oa Guilietta/33/33SW/155/156SW, Renault Scenic/Laguna Estate/Espace, Fiat Barchetta, Volvo V40 1.8 en V50 2.0D, Peugeot 208
Hij: V60 T5 Momentum MY19 / Birch Light Metallic, Maroon Brown Moritz leder en heel veel lekkers !
Zij: XC40 T2 MY23, Silver Dawn, Momentum Core Aut. met veel lekkers (V40 CC MY18, Denim Blue)
Volvo V60, VOR, D3 163pk, Ocean Blue & Beige leder, bodykit, MY12
Vroeger oa Mini, VW, Honda, Alfa Romeo (10x) oa Guilietta/33/33SW/155/156SW, Renault Scenic/Laguna Estate/Espace, Fiat Barchetta, Volvo V40 1.8 en V50 2.0D, Peugeot 208
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jalex_h
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De overheid hoeft niets te faciliteren, het wordt vanzelf 2030.
Ooit: Een kale 440 1.7 DL uit 1989, een flink aangeklede V40 2.0 uit 1996 & V70 D4 GT Nordic+ met een aantal leuke dingetjes uit 2015
Nu:
Je kunt beter een optimist zijn die ongelijk heeft dan een pessimist die gelijk krijgt.
Nu:
Je kunt beter een optimist zijn die ongelijk heeft dan een pessimist die gelijk krijgt.
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Edgecrusher
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V80-S60, jij hebt gelijk hoor. Er zit nu nog 8182 euro verschil in bijtelling.
Voor 2023 heeft een EV dezelfde bijtelling als een benzine of hybride die € 8.182 goedkoper is (vanaf € 30.000) (de rekensom is € 30.000 -/- € 21.818)
Boven de 30k is de bijtelling voor beiden 22%
Dit verschil in bijtelling zal in de komende jaren steed kleiner worden.
Rijdt je redelijke afstanden heb je bij een EV vaak een extended/ long range nodig die zomaar 5-10k meer moeten kosten.
Stel je bent in de markt voor een Tesla Model Y, de nieuwe budget versie staat vanaf € 49.900 op de website van Tesla.
Om op dezelfde bijtelling uit te komen heb je dus een budget van € 41.718- voor een brandstofauto.
Stel je bent in de markt voor een Audi E-Tron GT van € 106.000, dan kan je dus ook shoppen voor dezelfde bijtelling met een budget van € 97.818,-.
Kortom, hoe duurder de EV, hoe dichter benzine, diesel en hybride versies hem op de hielen zitten qua bijtelling.
Voor 2023 heeft een EV dezelfde bijtelling als een benzine of hybride die € 8.182 goedkoper is (vanaf € 30.000) (de rekensom is € 30.000 -/- € 21.818)
Boven de 30k is de bijtelling voor beiden 22%
Dit verschil in bijtelling zal in de komende jaren steed kleiner worden.
Rijdt je redelijke afstanden heb je bij een EV vaak een extended/ long range nodig die zomaar 5-10k meer moeten kosten.
Stel je bent in de markt voor een Tesla Model Y, de nieuwe budget versie staat vanaf € 49.900 op de website van Tesla.
Om op dezelfde bijtelling uit te komen heb je dus een budget van € 41.718- voor een brandstofauto.
Stel je bent in de markt voor een Audi E-Tron GT van € 106.000, dan kan je dus ook shoppen voor dezelfde bijtelling met een budget van € 97.818,-.
Kortom, hoe duurder de EV, hoe dichter benzine, diesel en hybride versies hem op de hielen zitten qua bijtelling.
2018 V40 D3 GT Business Sport + luxury + scandinavian line [SOLD] & 2018 V40 T4 GT Business Sport + luxury + scandinavian line + styling kit [SOLD]
Nu 2019 Audi A3 Cabriolet & 2023 Ford Puma ST-line X.
Nu 2019 Audi A3 Cabriolet & 2023 Ford Puma ST-line X.
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V480-S60
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Idd des te duurder de auto, des te minder "voordeel".
Echter als ik met een cataloguswaarde van €40.000 EV nog 9 euro per maand goedkoper uit ben dan een collega die een €25000 benzine (veel kleiner en kariger uitgerust) rijdt gaat het wel degelijk om centen.
Daarnaast kost de gelijkwaardige benzine versie van mijn auto "slechts" € 2500 minder dus dan praten we al gauw over €50 per maand verschil (is €600 per jaar) dat ik (theoretisch) minder bijtelling betaal. Dat is voor veel mensen een heleboel geld.
In mijn situatie ben ik begin dit jaar overgestapt van een diesel naar elektrisch. De diesel was in cataloguswaarde goedkoper dan mijn huidige elektrische exemplaar. (Wel ander merk maar vergelijkbare klasse en uitrusting) Ik zie nu ruim €50 per 4 weken extra op mijn rekening verschijnen.
Echter als ik met een cataloguswaarde van €40.000 EV nog 9 euro per maand goedkoper uit ben dan een collega die een €25000 benzine (veel kleiner en kariger uitgerust) rijdt gaat het wel degelijk om centen.
Daarnaast kost de gelijkwaardige benzine versie van mijn auto "slechts" € 2500 minder dus dan praten we al gauw over €50 per maand verschil (is €600 per jaar) dat ik (theoretisch) minder bijtelling betaal. Dat is voor veel mensen een heleboel geld.
In mijn situatie ben ik begin dit jaar overgestapt van een diesel naar elektrisch. De diesel was in cataloguswaarde goedkoper dan mijn huidige elektrische exemplaar. (Wel ander merk maar vergelijkbare klasse en uitrusting) Ik zie nu ruim €50 per 4 weken extra op mijn rekening verschijnen.
VOLVO FOR LIFE
440 1.7 Base, 1990 (12-93 tm 11-97)
440 TD, Wit, 1994 (11-97 tm 5-00)
480 Turbo, Rood, 1990 (5-00 tm 6-01)
440 1.8i, Flame Red, 1995 (3-03 tm 12-03)
V40 1.9D, 115 PK, Desert Wind, 2000 (12-03 tm 1-07)
S60 D5 Edition II, Black Stone, 2002 (2-07 tm 6-09)
480 GT, 2.0, Flame red, 1995 (6-01 tm 9-13)
S60 D5 Momentum, Magic Blue, 2005 (6-09 tm 9-13)
V70 2.5T AWD Kinetic, Black Sapphire, 2005 (9-13 tm 6-18)
XC60 3.0 T6 Summum, Terra Bronze, 2009, 236.000 kms (6-18 tm ..)
440 1.7 Base, 1990 (12-93 tm 11-97)
440 TD, Wit, 1994 (11-97 tm 5-00)
480 Turbo, Rood, 1990 (5-00 tm 6-01)
440 1.8i, Flame Red, 1995 (3-03 tm 12-03)
V40 1.9D, 115 PK, Desert Wind, 2000 (12-03 tm 1-07)
S60 D5 Edition II, Black Stone, 2002 (2-07 tm 6-09)
480 GT, 2.0, Flame red, 1995 (6-01 tm 9-13)
S60 D5 Momentum, Magic Blue, 2005 (6-09 tm 9-13)
V70 2.5T AWD Kinetic, Black Sapphire, 2005 (9-13 tm 6-18)
XC60 3.0 T6 Summum, Terra Bronze, 2009, 236.000 kms (6-18 tm ..)
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Hans Eilander
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- Lid geworden op: 01.08.2020 - 12:23
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Nu las ik deze week nog ergens, dat sommige deskundigen menen, dat de verbrandingsmotor (zoals wij die kennen) nog zeker 20 jaar in productie blijft. Ik zeg: verstandig besluit!
Volvo XC40 T2 Business Pro automaat. (8 okt 2020)
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jalex_h
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- Lid geworden op: 12.12.2014 - 19:20
- Locatie: Midden nederland
In productie blijven is nog niet hetzelfde als in Europa verkocht mogen worden.
Ooit: Een kale 440 1.7 DL uit 1989, een flink aangeklede V40 2.0 uit 1996 & V70 D4 GT Nordic+ met een aantal leuke dingetjes uit 2015
Nu:
Je kunt beter een optimist zijn die ongelijk heeft dan een pessimist die gelijk krijgt.
Nu:
Je kunt beter een optimist zijn die ongelijk heeft dan een pessimist die gelijk krijgt.
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teebee
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- Berichten: 6930
- Lid geworden op: 16.06.2016 - 22:02
Voor de gemiddelde zakelijke leaserijder kan het meestal wel uit om over te stappen naar EV (per 2026 verplicht). Maar voor de gemiddelde particulier is dat een ander verhaal…
“de voorruit is groter dan de achteruitkijkspiegel”
Hij: V60 T5 Momentum MY19 / Birch Light Metallic, Maroon Brown Moritz leder en heel veel lekkers !
Zij: XC40 T2 MY23, Silver Dawn, Momentum Core Aut. met veel lekkers (V40 CC MY18, Denim Blue)
Volvo V60, VOR, D3 163pk, Ocean Blue & Beige leder, bodykit, MY12
Vroeger oa Mini, VW, Honda, Alfa Romeo (10x) oa Guilietta/33/33SW/155/156SW, Renault Scenic/Laguna Estate/Espace, Fiat Barchetta, Volvo V40 1.8 en V50 2.0D, Peugeot 208
Hij: V60 T5 Momentum MY19 / Birch Light Metallic, Maroon Brown Moritz leder en heel veel lekkers !
Zij: XC40 T2 MY23, Silver Dawn, Momentum Core Aut. met veel lekkers (V40 CC MY18, Denim Blue)
Volvo V60, VOR, D3 163pk, Ocean Blue & Beige leder, bodykit, MY12
Vroeger oa Mini, VW, Honda, Alfa Romeo (10x) oa Guilietta/33/33SW/155/156SW, Renault Scenic/Laguna Estate/Espace, Fiat Barchetta, Volvo V40 1.8 en V50 2.0D, Peugeot 208
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Hans Eilander
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- Lid geworden op: 01.08.2020 - 12:23
- Locatie: G - O
Net ff opgezocht. Het verbod op Benzine motoren, word in 2035 waarschijnlijk van kracht. Dan ben ik bij leven en welzijn 81 jaar. Dan zal dat mij toch verder aan m,n r... roesten zeker?
Volvo XC40 T2 Business Pro automaat. (8 okt 2020)
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OGA244
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- Lid geworden op: 21.03.2011 - 21:54
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Volvo verdient er dan nog aan...
Ford verliest er mega op:
https://insideevs.com/news/658756/ford- ... this-year/
Ford verliest er mega op:
https://insideevs.com/news/658756/ford- ... this-year/
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teebee
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- Lid geworden op: 16.06.2016 - 22:02
Niet meer mogen produceren / verkopen of rijden?Hans Eilander schreef: ↑21.07.2023 - 16:28Net ff opgezocht. Het verbod op Benzine motoren, word in 2035 waarschijnlijk van kracht. Dan ben ik bij leven en welzijn 81 jaar. Dan zal dat mij toch verder aan m,n r... roesten zeker?
Zolang er geen keihard verbod komt (mi onmogelijk) op het berijden van een benzineauto en vooropgesteld dat de brandstof nog verkocht mag/kan worden cq verkrijgbaar zal zijn, zullen er tot in lengte van dagen benzineauto’s rond blijven rijden…
“de voorruit is groter dan de achteruitkijkspiegel”
Hij: V60 T5 Momentum MY19 / Birch Light Metallic, Maroon Brown Moritz leder en heel veel lekkers !
Zij: XC40 T2 MY23, Silver Dawn, Momentum Core Aut. met veel lekkers (V40 CC MY18, Denim Blue)
Volvo V60, VOR, D3 163pk, Ocean Blue & Beige leder, bodykit, MY12
Vroeger oa Mini, VW, Honda, Alfa Romeo (10x) oa Guilietta/33/33SW/155/156SW, Renault Scenic/Laguna Estate/Espace, Fiat Barchetta, Volvo V40 1.8 en V50 2.0D, Peugeot 208
Hij: V60 T5 Momentum MY19 / Birch Light Metallic, Maroon Brown Moritz leder en heel veel lekkers !
Zij: XC40 T2 MY23, Silver Dawn, Momentum Core Aut. met veel lekkers (V40 CC MY18, Denim Blue)
Volvo V60, VOR, D3 163pk, Ocean Blue & Beige leder, bodykit, MY12
Vroeger oa Mini, VW, Honda, Alfa Romeo (10x) oa Guilietta/33/33SW/155/156SW, Renault Scenic/Laguna Estate/Espace, Fiat Barchetta, Volvo V40 1.8 en V50 2.0D, Peugeot 208
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raspaardje
- 6th Gear member
- Berichten: 2793
- Lid geworden op: 30.05.2012 - 10:07
- Locatie: Regio Utrecht
2019 Volvo V60 T5 R-Design Polestar - Osmium Grey
2006 Saab 9-3 Cabrio 1.9 TiD Vector 20 Years Edition Hirsch - Electric Blue
2006 Saab 9-3 Cabrio 1.9 TiD Vector 20 Years Edition Hirsch - Electric Blue
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V480-S60
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- Lid geworden op: 18.07.2005 - 12:25
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De wettelijke verplichting is idd voorlopig van de baan. Maar de "contractuele" verplichtingen vanuit (semi-)overheden bij aanbestedingen niet.
Daarnaast verplichten steeds meer steden (ook overheid) dat er alleen eelektrisch materieel en vervoer gebruikt mag worden bij werkzaamheden in de stad.
Daarnaast verplichten steeds meer steden (ook overheid) dat er alleen eelektrisch materieel en vervoer gebruikt mag worden bij werkzaamheden in de stad.
VOLVO FOR LIFE
440 1.7 Base, 1990 (12-93 tm 11-97)
440 TD, Wit, 1994 (11-97 tm 5-00)
480 Turbo, Rood, 1990 (5-00 tm 6-01)
440 1.8i, Flame Red, 1995 (3-03 tm 12-03)
V40 1.9D, 115 PK, Desert Wind, 2000 (12-03 tm 1-07)
S60 D5 Edition II, Black Stone, 2002 (2-07 tm 6-09)
480 GT, 2.0, Flame red, 1995 (6-01 tm 9-13)
S60 D5 Momentum, Magic Blue, 2005 (6-09 tm 9-13)
V70 2.5T AWD Kinetic, Black Sapphire, 2005 (9-13 tm 6-18)
XC60 3.0 T6 Summum, Terra Bronze, 2009, 236.000 kms (6-18 tm ..)
440 1.7 Base, 1990 (12-93 tm 11-97)
440 TD, Wit, 1994 (11-97 tm 5-00)
480 Turbo, Rood, 1990 (5-00 tm 6-01)
440 1.8i, Flame Red, 1995 (3-03 tm 12-03)
V40 1.9D, 115 PK, Desert Wind, 2000 (12-03 tm 1-07)
S60 D5 Edition II, Black Stone, 2002 (2-07 tm 6-09)
480 GT, 2.0, Flame red, 1995 (6-01 tm 9-13)
S60 D5 Momentum, Magic Blue, 2005 (6-09 tm 9-13)
V70 2.5T AWD Kinetic, Black Sapphire, 2005 (9-13 tm 6-18)
XC60 3.0 T6 Summum, Terra Bronze, 2009, 236.000 kms (6-18 tm ..)
